http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2008/06/even-if-were-right-were-wrong/ Ideas linking Libraries, Computing, E-learning, and anything else that springs to mind. Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:03:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2008/06/even-if-were-right-were-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Owen Stephens Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:20:47 +0000 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/?p=98#comment-84 Brian, I think we agree really, although I think there is an issue around student expectations and what they expect 'institutional' IT to look like (how many MySpace users would want their course timetable to look like their myspace page?) To some extent I think the quote you use "this would be less successful if the tutor were to create the group and invite students." says it all - this is the cultural thing, not a technology thing. Brian, I think we agree really, although I think there is an issue around student expectations and what they expect ‘institutional’ IT to look like (how many MySpace users would want their course timetable to look like their myspace page?)
To some extent I think the quote you use “this would be less successful if the tutor were to create the group and invite students.” says it all – this is the cultural thing, not a technology thing.

]]> http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2008/06/even-if-were-right-were-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Brian Kelly Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:15:58 +0000 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/?p=98#comment-83 Hi Owen, yes I agree the two reports you've cited are worth reading. And, of course, the findings can be interpretted in differing ways. When I read the comments that: "While students talked about creating their own group on Facebook and inviting their tutor to join, this would be less successful if the tutor were to create the group and invite students." and "Students are most responsive when they initiate the contact, and having tutors available to contact at any time was seen to be very important – be it via email or social networking sites (as long as it is on the student’s terms)." I see this as implying an expectation of a more sophisticated engagement with use social networking services within our institutions and not just adding social networking features to existing VLEs or setting up teaching areas in commercial social networking spaces and expect that students will be happy to use them. Hi Owen, yes I agree the two reports you’ve cited are worth reading.
And, of course, the findings can be interpretted in differing ways. When I read the comments that:
“While students talked about creating their own group on Facebook and inviting their tutor to join, this would be less successful if the tutor were to create the group and invite students.”
and
“Students are most responsive when they initiate the contact, and having tutors available to contact at any time was seen to be very important – be it via email or social networking sites (as long as it is on the student’s terms).”
I see this as implying an expectation of a more sophisticated engagement with use social networking services within our institutions and not just adding social networking features to existing VLEs or setting up teaching areas in commercial social networking spaces and expect that students will be happy to use them.

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