Comments on: JISC09 Open Access http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2009/03/jisc09-open-access/ Ideas linking Libraries, Computing, E-learning, and anything else that springs to mind. Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:12:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Roger Pearse http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2009/03/jisc09-open-access/comment-page-1/#comment-240 Roger Pearse Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:22:58 +0000 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/?p=7#comment-240 Proquest may have done the job. Who pays the subscriptions, which underwrite it all? All we excluded taxpayers do. I hope you recognise how howlingly wrong it is to demand, in 2009, in the age of the internet on one hand and carbon emissions, to suggest that 60 million people (minus those in HE) should commute to a library or go without, merely to oblige a commercial company. Proquest is not my target here. It is the ingrained attitude of "all for me and none for you; and why aren't you paying me more?" Proquest may have done the job. Who pays the subscriptions, which underwrite it all? All we excluded taxpayers do.

I hope you recognise how howlingly wrong it is to demand, in 2009, in the age of the internet on one hand and carbon emissions, to suggest that 60 million people (minus those in HE) should commute to a library or go without, merely to oblige a commercial company.

Proquest is not my target here. It is the ingrained attitude of “all for me and none for you; and why aren’t you paying me more?”

]]> By: Owen Stephens http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2009/03/jisc09-open-access/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Owen Stephens Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:18:22 +0000 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/?p=7#comment-3 Hi Roger, As you may know, the contents of EEBO was digitised by Proquest, a commercial body, and they charge for access to the resource, and they also license how the resource can be used by subscribing libraries - including restricting access to members of subscribing institutions. However, I would expect the license agreement to include a provision of 'walk-in access' - that is to say that anyone coming into the physical library building is also allowed to access the electronic resource. In general I would expect Universities to make provision for members of the public to use their resources (although this will vary depending on the University) How convenient this is will of course depend on how close you are to a subscribing library. Hi Roger,
As you may know, the contents of EEBO was digitised by Proquest, a commercial body, and they charge for access to the resource, and they also license how the resource can be used by subscribing libraries – including restricting access to members of subscribing institutions.
However, I would expect the license agreement to include a provision of ‘walk-in access’ – that is to say that anyone coming into the physical library building is also allowed to access the electronic resource. In general I would expect Universities to make provision for members of the public to use their resources (although this will vary depending on the University)
How convenient this is will of course depend on how close you are to a subscribing library.

]]> By: Roger Pearse http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2009/03/jisc09-open-access/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Roger Pearse Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:50:09 +0000 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/?p=7#comment-2 One of the problems that I have with EEBO is that I pay for it -- as a taxpayer -- but have no access to it, since I'm not part of the Ivory Tower. This is morally wrong, and unsustainable just as soon as a journalist gets hold of it. Surely HE *want* the public to look at stuff? One of the problems that I have with EEBO is that I pay for it — as a taxpayer — but have no access to it, since I’m not part of the Ivory Tower. This is morally wrong, and unsustainable just as soon as a journalist gets hold of it.
Surely HE *want* the public to look at stuff?

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