Comments on: Quick Reference http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2009/06/quick-reference/ Ideas linking Libraries, Computing, E-learning, and anything else that springs to mind. Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:03:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Owen Stephens http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2009/06/quick-reference/comment-page-1/#comment-250 Owen Stephens Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:54:47 +0000 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/?p=490#comment-250 I don't think in principal there is any difference between referencing a specific scene in a film, and a specific page in a book. However, what I do wonder is whether it is useful to differentiate between general references and the more specific. To take an example from the APA Guide at http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/02/ "If you are directly quoting from a work, you will need to include the author, year of publication, and the page number for the reference" "If you are paraphrasing an idea from another work, you only have to make reference to the author and year of publication in your in-text reference, but APA guidelines encourage you to also provide the page number (although it is not required.)" If a page number is quoted, then actually the citation is functioning as more than a simple pointer to the reference - it is actually adding extra metadata. If the page number is not quoted, then the citation is simply an in-context pointer to the reference. Are these important distinctions. My instinct is yes - we shouldn't refer to these two different functions in the same way technically. However, I'm not sure what the implication of this is (in the context of the TELSTAR project anyway) I don’t think in principal there is any difference between referencing a specific scene in a film, and a specific page in a book. However, what I do wonder is whether it is useful to differentiate between general references and the more specific. To take an example from the APA Guide at http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/02/

“If you are directly quoting from a work, you will need to include the author, year of publication, and the page number for the reference”

“If you are paraphrasing an idea from another work, you only have to make reference to the author and year of publication in your in-text reference, but APA guidelines encourage you to also provide the page number (although it is not required.)”

If a page number is quoted, then actually the citation is functioning as more than a simple pointer to the reference – it is actually adding extra metadata. If the page number is not quoted, then the citation is simply an in-context pointer to the reference.

Are these important distinctions. My instinct is yes – we shouldn’t refer to these two different functions in the same way technically. However, I’m not sure what the implication of this is (in the context of the TELSTAR project anyway)

]]> By: Lukas Koster http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/2009/06/quick-reference/comment-page-1/#comment-248 Lukas Koster Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:20:45 +0000 http://www.meanboyfriend.com/overdue_ideas/?p=490#comment-248 Nice definition of "resource" ;-) You may want to add video, images, audio, online slideshows etc. to the list of resource examples. On line non-written resources will become more important. And have you thought about Tweets? This also makes sense in the light of your remarks about referring to specific parts of a resource (a scene, a track, a slide, etc.). But I am not sure what the difference is with a citation for page in a book? I do not have much experience with citations nowadays. I don't know what the rules are for this type of citations, if there are any. Nice definition of “resource” ;-) You may want to add video, images, audio, online slideshows etc. to the list of resource examples. On line non-written resources will become more important. And have you thought about Tweets?
This also makes sense in the light of your remarks about referring to specific parts of a resource (a scene, a track, a slide, etc.). But I am not sure what the difference is with a citation for page in a book?
I do not have much experience with citations nowadays. I don’t know what the rules are for this type of citations, if there are any.

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