{"id":729,"date":"2010-04-20T16:18:41","date_gmt":"2010-04-20T15:18:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.meanboyfriend.com\/overdue_ideas\/?p=729"},"modified":"2010-04-20T16:18:41","modified_gmt":"2010-04-20T15:18:41","slug":"discussion-panel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.meanboyfriend.com\/overdue_ideas\/2010\/04\/discussion-panel\/","title":{"rendered":"Discussion panel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Panel is:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Peter McDonald (PM)<\/li>\n<li>Marianne Talbot (MT)<\/li>\n<li>David Robertson (DR)<\/li>\n<li>Andy Lane (AL)<\/li>\n<li>Fred Mednick (FM)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Q<\/strong>: Did you have hopes\/thoughts about reuse when you did a podcast?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MT<\/strong>: No! But since been approached by a US company interested in doing some lectures for them &#8211; so definitely a way of self promotion<\/p>\n<p><strong>DR<\/strong>: Hoped to see use on iTunesU to compare with high quality content from US sites<\/p>\n<p><strong>PM<\/strong>: Public good &#8211; I&#8217;m publicly funded, and feel it is right to do it<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q<\/strong>: Business models related to Open Content? (e.g. micropayments)<\/p>\n<p><strong>AL<\/strong>: No different to other industries &#8211; e.g. Music industry &#8211; &#8216;freely available&#8217; content (whether legal or not) but still need to generate income. May be option for micropayments for &#8216;value added&#8217; &#8211; e.g. provided printed, bound, version of content. At the moment the OU is looking at how much they can afford to spend on the content and how it is classified &#8211; is it &#8216;outreach&#8217;, &#8216;marketing&#8217;, &#8216;recruitment&#8217;, &#8216;teaching&#8217; etc? OER may provide cost savings &#8211; not just about income. If OER is an &#8216;add-on&#8217; or &#8216;nice to have&#8217; it will fail &#8211; has to be a central part of institution.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PM<\/strong>: Personal perspective. \u00a0Could be part of institutional model to get funding for research etc. &#8211; make an OER output a requirement on funding<\/p>\n<p><strong>DR<\/strong>: Would like this type of activity embedded more. e.g. it was discovered that certain &#8216;reading lists&#8217; were available outside the university Intranet &#8211; some academics horrified &#8211; DR says he sees his lectures as the property of &#8216;the world&#8217; (without wanting to be pretentious) &#8211; not just for those in Oxford<\/p>\n<p><strong>MT<\/strong>: Perhaps add a request for donations at the end of each podcasts [this makes me think if This American Life and Public radio in the US]<\/p>\n<p><strong>AL<\/strong>: No reason shouldn&#8217;t charge for some things &#8211; but understanding what people will pay for and who your audience is<\/p>\n<p>Comment from Sarah from Strategic Content Alliance: Have to understand both your audience and your costs &#8211; need to get this clear before you think about a revenue model<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q<\/strong>: What is the single greatest challenge for OER?<\/p>\n<p><strong>FM<\/strong>: The plethora of organisations &#8211; would be nice if we had interoperable organisations!<\/p>\n<p><strong>AL<\/strong>: Will have succeeded when we stop talking about Open Educational Resources and start talking about Education &#8211; OERs are just a means to an end.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PM<\/strong>: How to change thinking. We end up &#8216;translating&#8217; between the old way and new way of doing things &#8211; rather than changing the way we think to deal with the new way of doing things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MT<\/strong>: Not about challenges &#8211; but a worry &#8211; will opportunities for new lecturers be curtailed as institutions reuse captured content instead &#8211; why have a new lecture when you can re-run an old one?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q<\/strong>: Publishers don&#8217;t know if you use diagrams in lectures &#8211; but if you do it on camera you have to clear copyright. Can we get agreement from publishers for non-profit reuse?<\/p>\n<p><strong>AL<\/strong>: Very good point. Early days for publishers as much as it is for HEIs. Some work done &#8211; e.g. MIT have agreement with Elsevier that they can include up to 3 diagrams from Elsevier content in a piece of OCW (think I got this right).<\/p>\n<p>Comment from Marion Manton (<strong>MM<\/strong>) MOSAIC project (Oxford reuse one, not Library data one): Teachers continually find stuff on the web which they use in their teaching &#8211; until OERs are part of this landscape we won&#8217;t have success. If you can&#8217;t find it via Google, most academics won&#8217;t find it &#8211; no good locked away in repositories. Are OERs really very different to using books, articles, etc.? Just because it&#8217;s a podcast, why should we think about this any differently?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DR<\/strong>: Quality and provenance problems with things on the open web<\/p>\n<p><strong>MM<\/strong>: Yes &#8211; but skills to assess quality and provenance of material doesn&#8217;t change &#8211; and these are skills we need to be fostering anyway<\/p>\n<p><strong>AL<\/strong>: This [OERs, reuse, Open Education] is going to take 10-20 years to shakeout &#8211; it isn&#8217;t going to happen quickly<\/p>\n<p><strong>FM<\/strong>: Nice story &#8211; rewarding attending &#8216;Learning Ambassador&#8217; \u00a0course in Nigeria by agreement with driving licensing organisation to issue (for small fee) a personalised licence plate &#8211; which made crossing borders etc. easier &#8211; there are ways of making this stuff sustainable.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Panel is: Peter McDonald (PM) Marianne Talbot (MT) David Robertson (DR) Andy Lane (AL) Fred Mednick (FM) Q: Did you have hopes\/thoughts about reuse when you did a podcast? MT: No! 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